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upgrade from 7 to 8
Ian Whybrow <sales@...
Screens work and look like 7 unless fields are changed to Win-3D inwhich case theytoggle quoted message Show quoted text
look like real windows program (ie: 3D with white backgrounds) Some new features
are available but program logic is more or less the same. Some gateways
disappeared in 8 (x-base I believe)
SALOMON FRID wrote:
From: "SALOMON FRID" <YSFR@...>
Harry Kleinsmit <info@...
We currently have an app. in V7..Advantages : More bugs solved, unlimited task nesting, cut/paste tasks across
programs, new functions (STRTOKEN, EURO..., etc.).Disadvantages : I personally
found V7 more stable.
Do the screens need to be redone?No, but you can use '3D windows' fields, which basically have white background
instead of the all gray screens. Also disabled text is now schadowed instead of
dotted and the check box is now checked instead of crossed.
programming changes?Not really. I've heared there were some things you shouldn't do in V8 which were
perfectly okay in V7 but I've also heared that these were going to be solved in
V8.3 which is due to be released this month (I hope <g>).
"SALOMON FRID" <YSFR@...
We currently have an app. in V7..
Are there any advantages (and disadvantages) to upgrade to 8?
Do the screens need to be redone? programming changes?
Gustavo C SANTIAGO <gcsantiago@...
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I wish to add some things...
In perspective you may to consider the last version 8 (I have 8.01a),
that come with PREVIEW and other things.
v8x have HTML functions (but not with Desktop version). The interface
is more modern (flat toolbar buttons and toolbar image) and show the
username at the bottom of the screen. For graphic printer properties you
find copies expression and Landscape orientation. For standard file are
a new set of properties for MERGE and Output Merge operation work on
this (I wish this will work for printer then We can do template forms
for end users). Another important adding is DEBUG but I'm not using too
much. Have incorporated new behavior for cache files.
This new behavior come with job for you to tunning locking, but I
survived with this. (I change v7 to 8 too).
V7 is doubtless more stable, only take a look to the revisions history.
PS: I don't know why the actual revision of 8.01 is ONLY a-2. (May be
MSE discontinue 8.01 for 8.2 THAT I PAY AGAIN or I'm wrong - Yoram?)
Harry Kleinsmit wrote:
Gustavo C SANTIAGO
Buenos Aires - ARGENTINA
Swanepoel Carel <AHC@...>
I have discovered the following disadvantages,toggle quoted message Show quoted text
1. The key check for SQL type databases is disabled. Thus if you want to
verify duplicate records imediately when the user enter the data you must
now do a special link for the purpose if you don't do this you will get an
error message back from the database only after you leave the record.
(Functionality has changed). Also when you are in create mode using cntl C
the program quites totaly and you must then activate it again via the menu.
2. During the designing of forms in version 7 you could have select more
than one field and change it eg to 3D, In version 8 only one change.
3. The desktop version are very limited. ODBC drivers are not part of the
desktop version anymore. (Thus if you use odbc drivers you must purchase the
4. The licence manager is a GREAT pain. It does not only keep track on the
number of users locked in but some how they also use the magic lock file and
this limit you on the number of session as well. eg if you purchased a 2
user licence only two magic session are allowed to be open although the
license manager display that only one user is locked in, If you try to open
another session you will get a message " Waiting for lock file ctlXX.mcf"
back. This is a great problem especcialy in runtime because some times i
discovered that some user has muliple session of magic.
5. I understand that if you want use partitioning (you must purchase an
6. If you want to use the web facilities (Additional cast again)
7. If you used the functionality to set the printer orientation using the
statement printer oriantation=L(P) in the ini file you will have to change
all that programs this does not work in version 8 any more. You now have an
additional functionality in the IO file properties to set this (Great, the
only problem is you must change the program where you have used the INI put)
There are a lot of advantages of which i will only list a few
1. For the first time you can recover a deleted program. You must activate
the archive manager.
2. Version Control.
3. You get all the gate ways with the client/server version.
Magic Team Leader
"Juan Antonio Aranda" <jaranda@...
Recently we tested the 8.2 and found a problem with the screens. We designed
our screens to fill all the area. In the v.8 the same screen look like we
are out the limits, thus the size of the usable screen is smaller from
version to version. The same happend to me when migrate from v.6 to v.7.
Anyway, I think there is a utility to resize screens automatically but I
don't remember who/where to find it.
De: SALOMON FRID <YSFR@...>
Para: MAGIC LIST <magicu-l@...>
Fecha: jueves 3 de junio de 1999 21:20
Asunto: [magicu-l] upgrade from 7 to 8
From: "SALOMON FRID" <YSFR@...>peter.stewart@...
In a message dated 6/4/99 3:47:10 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
<< Anyway, I think there is a utility to resize screens automatically but I
don't remember who/where to find it. >>
Another Shameless plug:
"SALOMON FRID" <YSFR@...>
Ton,toggle quoted message Show quoted text
Thank you for the input..
I'm not at this point planning a lot of internet or sql upgrades
From: Ton Schurink <T.Schurink@...>
To: 'YSFR@...' <YSFR@...>
Date: Friday, June 04, 1999 1:34 AM
Subject: RE:upgrade from 7 to 8
in several modules.
Ian Whybrow <sales@...>
Regarding merge for printers. I have already dropped this suggestion in the suggestiontoggle quoted message Show quoted text
box at Magic's main site. YOu should do the same as I have had responses to
suggestions there. This would be a very desirable feature for us too!
MAGIC in Transportation Logistics
Gustavo C SANTIAGO wrote:
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